that was shit. look i get it the point of ntr girls fall for the dick but lets get real even if the girl lost to her lust (i mean her greediness and her weak will) no woman would fall for an ugly bastard wanting a big dick is nothing more than wanting a rich guy she would rather have that dick attached to an attractive guy instead of this sleaze-ball so cut the ''i'm in love with this guy now'' shit or ''i really did love you'' shit because if you'd love th MC for even once you never would cheat on him you sad excuse of a human being who doesn't even have the right to call herself human.
>>1077954 @ Anonymous
same here let's make it clear ugly bastard is still shit but much much less dirt, degenerate and dark without ntr, blackmail or rape. well for me if there is no ntr,pegging,humiliation, scat, gore, bestaility,swinging (most of the time it is nothing but volunteere ntr which is disgusting) blackmail (sometimes it is fine but most of the time it is co-exist with ntr which is the number 1 turn off form me) and bdsm (it looks too plastic to me i'm all for naturality) i'm pretty much okay with other things (well actually i also dislike loli most of the time but if the girl doesn't suffer or pressured into anything then it is more bearable at least)
>>1099710 @ Anonymous203006
I understand, I apologize if I touched a nerve there.
But you have to understand that that train of thought is dangerous.
I faced bullying too even from family (to the point of being suicidal), but wanting people dead is as bad as what they do to you.
And consider that the thought can be directed to you too for whatever reason, as you could cause "pain" to others by your actions indirectly and unknowingly, they could consider you a bully and you not even know it and then do stuff if pushed to the deep end, even if not by you...
>>1099721 @ Fumei
You have a point, I will edit it.
I sometimes forget that I have to be very specific in contexts when speaking to people outside my language.
My apologies.
GundamKira meant, that the boys' behavior is quite common around that age. They want to do things which they think it could be "funny". However, they didn't know what happened to her at home and they did something to her which is supposed to be "funny", which is of course not (I mean what's the point in pranking someone by doing something which can be seen as sexual harassment?). If they did know that, things would go differently. The best thing they could have done if they have known about this is to help her.
To say something is "normal" is inaccurate und not appropriate to describe something since it could make many misunderstandings because... well, what's "normal" nowadays? Yeah, let's ask that question: "What is 'normal'?"
That is very individual what you see as "normal".
As for the bullies you mentioned, I think they should get a second chance. Don't get me wrong, they should be punished for what they did to her, but not with death. Like I said, they thought it could be "funny" if they did this and that, but they didn't think about how the others would see it. Someone should tell them that this kind of action is wrong and harmful. The teacher, who is responsible for the students, should interfere in this kind of situation. Unfortunately in this doujin, it seems that he didn't or did poorly just like the teachers as you described it.
Just as you said, their behavior is "not normal" or how I would put it "violating", but it can be changed into something good, something non-violating. Like I always say: "There are no bad people, only bad behavior."
Anyways, I think we can all agree that the people who did immoral things are not normal.
P.S. sorry for making it this long and for my language because I'm not good at English ^^°
It's pretty rare to see a doujin that represents the thoughts and experiences of a abused victim.
What she has gone through in this hell is really horrible and the fact that she will always remember that, no matter where and what she does, because it's saved in her subconscious even if you don't want it to be saved, is terrible because this is what a trauma looks like. This feeling of being unable to speak up, unable to do something against this and the urge to find something that can save you from this misery.
Unfortunately, she couldn't find someone who can help her, not even her corrupted brother. It's hard to imagine, what things cause these people to commit such deeds that are morally reprehensible.
Also, how incredibly irresponsible that teacher was. Why couldn't he ask the parents for a appointment where they can meet up and talk face to face about that incident? Would be more effective in my opinion.
>>1099708 @ GundamKira
no, bullies deserve death, they're behavior is not "normal". viewing it as "normal" is how bullying is allowed to happen, I WOULD know as I experienced it firsthand with the same "oh its normal" argument being made by the teachers as to why they didnt do shit.
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same here let's make it clear ugly bastard is still shit but much much less dirt, degenerate and dark without ntr, blackmail or rape. well for me if there is no ntr,pegging,humiliation, scat, gore, bestaility,swinging (most of the time it is nothing but volunteere ntr which is disgusting) blackmail (sometimes it is fine but most of the time it is co-exist with ntr which is the number 1 turn off form me) and bdsm (it looks too plastic to me i'm all for naturality) i'm pretty much okay with other things (well actually i also dislike loli most of the time but if the girl doesn't suffer or pressured into anything then it is more bearable at least)
For the impregnation "requirement" is not here. At best it is barely hinted at with a "late period" which is just a cop out.
I understand, I apologize if I touched a nerve there.
But you have to understand that that train of thought is dangerous.
I faced bullying too even from family (to the point of being suicidal), but wanting people dead is as bad as what they do to you.
And consider that the thought can be directed to you too for whatever reason, as you could cause "pain" to others by your actions indirectly and unknowingly, they could consider you a bully and you not even know it and then do stuff if pushed to the deep end, even if not by you...
You have a point, I will edit it.
I sometimes forget that I have to be very specific in contexts when speaking to people outside my language.
My apologies.
I think you misunderstood what>>1099708 @ GundamKira is trying to say.
GundamKira meant, that the boys' behavior is quite common around that age. They want to do things which they think it could be "funny". However, they didn't know what happened to her at home and they did something to her which is supposed to be "funny", which is of course not (I mean what's the point in pranking someone by doing something which can be seen as sexual harassment?). If they did know that, things would go differently. The best thing they could have done if they have known about this is to help her.
To say something is "normal" is inaccurate und not appropriate to describe something since it could make many misunderstandings because... well, what's "normal" nowadays? Yeah, let's ask that question: "What is 'normal'?"
That is very individual what you see as "normal".
As for the bullies you mentioned, I think they should get a second chance. Don't get me wrong, they should be punished for what they did to her, but not with death. Like I said, they thought it could be "funny" if they did this and that, but they didn't think about how the others would see it. Someone should tell them that this kind of action is wrong and harmful. The teacher, who is responsible for the students, should interfere in this kind of situation. Unfortunately in this doujin, it seems that he didn't or did poorly just like the teachers as you described it.
Just as you said, their behavior is "not normal" or how I would put it "violating", but it can be changed into something good, something non-violating. Like I always say: "There are no bad people, only bad behavior."
Anyways, I think we can all agree that the people who did immoral things are not normal.
P.S. sorry for making it this long and for my language because I'm not good at English ^^°
It's pretty rare to see a doujin that represents the thoughts and experiences of a abused victim.
What she has gone through in this hell is really horrible and the fact that she will always remember that, no matter where and what she does, because it's saved in her subconscious even if you don't want it to be saved, is terrible because this is what a trauma looks like. This feeling of being unable to speak up, unable to do something against this and the urge to find something that can save you from this misery.
Unfortunately, she couldn't find someone who can help her, not even her corrupted brother. It's hard to imagine, what things cause these people to commit such deeds that are morally reprehensible.
Also, how incredibly irresponsible that teacher was. Why couldn't he ask the parents for a appointment where they can meet up and talk face to face about that incident? Would be more effective in my opinion.
no, bullies deserve death, they're behavior is not "normal". viewing it as "normal" is how bullying is allowed to happen, I WOULD know as I experienced it firsthand with the same "oh its normal" argument being made by the teachers as to why they didnt do shit.